13.11.2014 - 08:42
Actually I leave games so I dont get SP and wont rank up. I do this since I am rank 8, has nothing to do with lose. Even if I had 1 million loses I wouldn't give a fck about it, its just a number. I dont like the emblem of rank 10 and I do like the rank 9 one, it is funny how you talk about how childish it is and implying that I am scared to show my lose, when you actually think I give a crap about those things? I find it absurd you are talking like this, calling me a noob and that I am crying and ''new high rank'' LOL. You clearly dont get this thread. My point was at the time people cried about WF but alot of people did the same thing in the SS I put down. That was my point, I have no idea who you are, and im pretty sure you don't know me. So instead of panicing with some words which make absolutely no sense, first actually get your facts straight. Thank you.
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13.11.2014 - 11:15
While riot needs to learn to control his tone and not be so agressive, he has a point, and like i said to desu in that other thread this argument will keep on appearing unless no wf is added to the game rules, or the game mechanics are changed. In the meantime however, you are all perfectly within your rights to banlist riot or simply refuse to play him if you disagree with him. He is perfectly correct when he says theres nothing stopping him from first turn wallfucking people. However the problem is that the majority of the community has agreed upon not doing this as an unofficial rule/etiquette for better gameplay. and as a game abandoner myself, i abandon games to not gain sp too. I've even abandoned games i have won, including cws and duels. I should probably be a r11. And i would like to be, but for the rank nazis who would use my high rank as an excuse not to let me cw.
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13.11.2014 - 11:52
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18.11.2014 - 13:04
sorry. I think you missread my whole posts. Pls reread them, as you will be amazed that I wasn't insultive to anyone (except when replying to rude posts). Why then to control my tone?! But pls do read extremely rude and insultive posts written to me (I think in normal forums I could acctually report those users... but I don't want to bother, even if it is possible) While this was said: I acctually got notification to check this thread, but tldr - don't care that much
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18.11.2014 - 13:55 Black Shark 帳戶已刪除 Basically: ''How the F**** can you think like this?'' Oh yeah, not aggressive. Anti-Banter mate
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18.11.2014 - 14:05
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18.11.2014 - 14:26
Is this all you gotta say to defend your "pro wallfucking on 1st turn policy"?? I was expecting something more...
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19.11.2014 - 02:31
How can I think like this? Like what? Like the game is made? Really? Ok if I need to reply: I don't know. I guess your madeup rules are more logical- so let's just everyone follow your madeup nonsense rules.
So the facts I stated in my first post are not enough for you? What do you want me to add? Ok let me repeat it to you since you can't understand the first post: I WAS/AM AND WILL ALWAYS (!) WALLF**K ON TURN 0. Why: coz I can. And why the hell not? What can you do to stop me? Nothing. Be proactive and change the game. Now I won't read replies anymore, as this topic is not going to the productive end. What I wanted to do with my fist post was sending a message that not all of us agree with some of you, and that I will not follow your makeup rules, but the official rules of the game. And those don't mention WF anywhere.
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19.11.2014 - 04:09
In this game, I am a god to you. You cant play a normal game, compete like any good player, only thing you do is wf first turn some noob and take his cap next, if a better player shows up then you are, which is around 80% of players in this game, then he will defend his cap. Now stop being so autistic and accept that wf inst a fair play of this game, and only retards such as yourself use it
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19.11.2014 - 04:09
First of all, great job you do whatever you want. You don't let the people command you, you have that freedom. The thing is, AW didn't put no WF turn 1 in the rules because they actually cant prevent it from happening. As you would know, even when it is an written official rule, people will break it, just like they break alot of other rules. (myself included) This is why most of the community in 2011/2012 made an official rule BETWEEN the players (most of the competitive players), and those people respected it and accepted it. It is also kinda logical that people wanted this rule and made it official between the players, because if people get WF'ed first turn they get kinda hold from expanding because the WF'er might attack turn 2 or not, and 5/10 units in your capital could make a bigdifference in expanding. This is MY explanation from what I know and what I have heard, im not saying these are the facts or this is the truth, just saying my point of view.
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19.11.2014 - 04:11
Learn to write please before you argument someone, especially if you tell a player he is a 12 year old
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19.11.2014 - 04:21
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19.11.2014 - 05:30
You still defend you're not being agressive? I can asume you didnt read my answer... I will just sum up it for you since you dont have the level to read more than 3 words together... Go back to scenarios. This isn't your place, this post isnt meant for your kind of players, you are a noob that will always keep beeing it. Good for you but pls, respect us the same you want us to respect you: don't play with us, keep playing your scenarios, dont learn any skill and have fun beeing unrespectful to your oponents, just try not to come across our way cause you will end up losing 100% of your games. PS: I can just ban you for WF'er, which is nearly the same as stoping you
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19.11.2014 - 05:55 Black Shark 帳戶已刪除 No, I was summing up what you were saying, which was ''how can the f**** can people think like this?'' Also, your arguments are just ''coz I can'' which is not a good argument. That's like a coalition of factions in Minecraft curbstomping 1, new one to puple ''just coz we can'' a bit. Btw, your ad hominem attack on Eagle only makes your arguments look even more weaker. Oh, you wanna WF? Kk but lots of us will ban you from our games so yeah, less people to play with.
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19.11.2014 - 07:44
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19.11.2014 - 10:41
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20.11.2014 - 03:44
How old are you that you need to read uncensored word f**k everywhere? Is that really so upsetting to you, that need to write reply? Btw you are not funny even if you put ";D" at the end. Btw is this your only comment on the topic? We WERE talking about WF you know... bah why do I even bother with 10yr olds...
my attack on leavers is more than just, since hypocrites appealed on the ethics. Leavers and ethics... incredible. So ban me from your games. Just stop talking that WF is bad. It's not. You asked for additional arguments? 1) who says you have the right to wall on turn 0 anyway? Who made that rule? Noone. Group of players don't count, rules do. 2) If wall should be done on turn 0, there would be an additional turn to make walls OR there would be a scenario with walls built already - if it's not, I can block you. 3) they prevented turnblock - they made algorithm preventing depends on the # of the attacking units vs # of the defending units - BUT they didn't prevent WF. can you imagine why? 4) And basic one - why oh WHY is WF wrong? I just don't see the point. Reply to my points with the facts and I will change my mind. I promise. Just don't go with "we beleive" or "we agreed to" (as we haven't) or "there is A that implies to B" statements.
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20.11.2014 - 04:34
1) if players don't make the rules, who does? God? A stranger to the game? You alone? No. A group of veteran players that know how this actually work. You're no one in this game to say what is right or wrong. 2) it's impossible to have the walls premade... that's an excuse some retarded guy would make up to try argue something that's stupid to do. It's as simple as RESPECTING your opponent, he's a person as well as you are (I think). 3) wtf?? Dude, really? They prevented tb? XDD don't make me laugh buddy. They did the algorithm to have a fair probability, not to prevent anything... they didn't prevent wf cause if not people would be able to wall everything at their will and could not be stopped... you must be retarded. 4) nothing is bad, not even if your ally takes your empty cities and then declares you war and kills you. But the community exists for something, to make rules that are fair for the majority and to say which things are aceptable or not. If you don't like our rules, gtfo, play another game, you won't be missed. This rules are meant to provide a minimum respect to your opponent, if you don't respect him, we won't respect you. Btw, you still haven't responded any of my posts, are you afraid of me cause I'm telling truths? All your arguments here are selfish and don't have any real basis to support your decision... And btw, we all told you our reasons for leaving so stop using the leaver excuse to feel superior, you're making a fool of yourself. And if you took a second to see my profile, I ain't a leaver so your excuse can't work with me. Before writing anything, learn to read others. You really are annoying me with your childish behaviour.
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20.11.2014 - 06:16 Black Shark 帳戶已刪除 RaulPB pretty much summed it up. Also turn 0 is picking phase, just sayin'... Btw, you haven't responded to my argument either.
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20.11.2014 - 07:33
"Rank nazis" hehehe I like this expression. Rankism makes sense up to rank 9,5 when players have to acquire gradually the necessary upgrades for a comprehensive use of resources for major strategies used in competitive games. There is no difference between rank 9,5 and 10 or 11 or 12 or 13... the difference is whether the player is used or not to play competitive games.
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20.11.2014 - 07:49
He just avoids a direct argument cause he has no idea how this game works... he has not replied to any of my arguments, questions or whatever asked... he's just retarded in my opinion, that would explain all his posts.
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20.11.2014 - 15:58
Me avoiding your posts?! What a failed self confidence. Not likely, if you are off topic or just not having logical conclusions- I just don't bother to read you. Simple as that. You commented "veterans making" rules. HAHAHAHAHAHAH ARE YOU INSANE? it's not insult, it's just honest question. Are you!? No- authors of the GAME MAKE THE RULES. Not you. Not the community. Not rank 12654. "veterans". Please define who are veterans and why should they be more important? Besides who do you think you are talking down to me? A 5 min/turn player who think that over rank 10 is a "god mode". I played most of my games 24/48h/turn - ofcourse I won't make the same ammount of SP as you do. I knew that when I start playing the game. I would probbably have to play 120 games at the time - where 10 concurrent is more than enought at any moment. My games ussually last for month or two. You finish 2/3 games a day. SP/rank doesn't make you "an expert" *caugh* but can make some players an asshole *caugh* "1) if players don't make the rules, who does? God? A stranger to the game? You alone? No. A group of veteran players that know how this actually work." HAHAHAH it's a game. It has code. And programmed rules. This is how it works. omg: YOU know how this ACTUALLY works!- you are not ok. something is seriuslly wrong with you. honestly. You know how this secret game works. haha "2) it's impossible to have the walls premade..." you take 5 or 6 units, you stack them around the fucking city without links. a lvl1 noob can do it. don't make me laugh- it's something half of scenarios have it made ALREADY. Why you talking here if this is too much for you to know. "3) wtf?? Dude, really? They prevented tb? XDD don't make me laugh buddy. " yes they did with the system/logic they feel it the right one. BUT they didn't even lift a finger about wallfuck. really "dude" (dude is a dork lingua btw) "4) ... But the community exists for something ... " comunitiy is like a stupid whore. will do anything for few SP. I just don't care about community. As I said implied that in my first post. The community DOES NOT make the game rules. Owner/admins of game do. "4) ... If you don't like our rules, gtfo, play another game, you won't be missed...." it's not YOUR game. And you proved my whole point here: I don't care about, but I do wipe my ass YOUR RULES. Stop bothering me with them. "All your arguments here are selfish" yes they are! You just found out that one? Are YOU playing for humanity? For curing cancer? wtf. yes they are selfish no shit sherlock. But coz of that, they are not any less logical or right. "we all told you our reasons" I don't care about your *reasons* - statistics says everything. the end. "so stop using the leaver excuse to feel superior" But that's the point. I can and will feel superior, as I behave more ethical than most of leavers. I am honest about my gameplay! "I ain't a leaver so your excuse can't work with me." I WAS clearly speaking to leavers. Why you speaking then to me? Most high rank players are less ethical than most of noobs. Those noobs who have been outvoted by ranksizm. "You really are annoying me with your childish behaviour" Why would you even think I care how you feel? now that's beeing explained. I ARGUMENTED MY POINTS YOU HAVENT! You just negated EVERYTHING I said. I WISH you could reach the level of childrens, as I would have more adult discussion than I have this one with you.
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20.11.2014 - 16:03
Lol again another makeup rule/community fact. "Btw, you haven't responded to my argument either." Yes explaning to everyone everything is pretty much retared, as I just can't prove anything with simple facts. So let me just counterargument you post in RaulPB's way. "Put whatever you said in that post"+append+"no it's not, it's retarded, community say's you are wrong, community is right, we are veterans so we know the best, get the hell of the game"
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20.11.2014 - 17:21
Alot of chit chat yet none of you know the true power of the dark si- I mean wf.
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21.11.2014 - 00:32 Black Shark 帳戶已刪除 The made-up rule is just like a community in a MC server saying ''right chaps no curbstomping new factions aight''. Also, according to your logic only the admins can make up rules for specific games. UN can rogue! You can war turn 2 on RP, if you get banned it's injustice! After all you CANNOT make up rules, only admins! See? Also, the admins added the banlist SO MAPMAKERS AND PEOPLE CAN BAN 1st TURN WFERS FROM THEIR GAMES. That's basically supporting the banning from games of 1st turn wfers. #REKT
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21.11.2014 - 03:14
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21.11.2014 - 03:33
yes because if you feel the need to cencor the beautifull word "fuck", that means you are either this guy A so i would ask you "Does your mother knows you are posting on the internet instead of doing your homework? or B in wich case,dont talk to me again or C grow a pair dude.. or D then i apologize to you.I didnt know.I hope everything goes well with you in the future.Stay strong!
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21.11.2014 - 05:16
Well, what do you know? the first post you directly respond to me!! congratz! Let's see... you realize admins dont play the game? Do you realize that simple fact?? Are you blind?? Maybe you are lol Now tell me... how would a person that doesnt play a game make the rules for a game?? They just do it talking with the community Let's see... you can make the same exact amount of sp by playing casual or quick games, just that my game will take a couple of hours and your a couple of weeks maybe. But your account was made on 2012... at this point, you should have been quite more than just rank 7 if you played a bit more often. I look down at you cause you play scenarios only, so there's no way someone like you can understand decisions taken by competitive players. Besides... you've been gone too much time to come here and try to convince anyone about anything. Rank doesnt mean shit, agree. But taking a quick look at your profile as a whole i'm 99% sure i can beat you a 100 games on the road until you start to realize how the game works. 1) Dude, why you take things so literal? Do you really expect people to know the game code...? Omg really, if you're gonna twist everything I say just tell me about it and i will try explain everything to you as if you were a little child... Rules are not programed, rules are made by people, just like laws are. Having laws against some action doesnt mean you can't violate them you know?? It just separates the right form the wrong. 2) Let's see..... you must be really noob to say that.... haven't you ever realized that even if you have the 3 units around your city at turn 1, walls arent made?? So you can still wf that.... 3) Em... you realize that's not preventing but instead allowing TB in a certain percentage right? If there wasnt this algorithm or whatever there would be no tb at all... And they cant do anything about wf, they cant just delete wf from turn 1 and pretend to have it in the rest of the game. You say such illogical reasons... 4) So you just called yourself whore who would do anything for sp... Yup, doesnt surprise me. Anyway, not everyone is like you. If you dont care about community, gtfo this forum. This is for the community that really cares about this game and it's people. 4) It's not my game, but our game instead, and it's our rules, which everyone have agreed on... you're just like the little outcast person that likes to be marginalized and tries to think that his rules are way better than the other's. Being selfish makes your arguments totally useless, no power at all.... they lose any possibility to convince anyone about anything. You're no better than anyone here. So being selfish wont make you look smarter nor convincing, it just makes you seem like a child. Not leaving doesnt mean you're more ethical, as far as i can see, not paying attention to other people's words is the least ethical you could do :lol: and not leaving a game doesnt make you superior to anything XDD "Honest about your gameplay..." I won't defend all high ranks here or anywhere, that's just impossible to do with some of them but i do think you tend to behave totally childish against who ever disagrees with you, no matter who this person is. If instead of being a retarded moaner, talked some sense and tried to really convince people of what you'd say, you would have a chance for doing something... But since that all you're being is a selfish asshole... there's no way you can do anything but be hated and banned by everyone. I'd love to 1 vs 1 to see how cocky you are in game. You havent argumented anything, you're just stating that you want to wf, that's all. For a selfish purpose. Not better than any kid would argue. And what else can i do besides from negating your selfishness?? This is a community, like it or not.
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21.11.2014 - 08:17
Stop being so lame to Riot... I already talked with him in pr yesterday and he actually made some quiet good statements. Some were indeed maybe something that shouldn't be said, and maybe he is a little but rude/harsh but seriously give him some slack. We all have been there when we were nooby lowrank and thought WF was not wrong. If you are gonna denny this you are simply lying to your self. Riot didn't know you guys were mostly talking about 3v3/competitive gameplay. After I talked with him and told him why you guys sounded so harsh and kinda attacked him he understood our points and actuallly agreed on some points with it. He said the truth when WF wasn't really against the rule but just something made up between players, i explained him why players respected it and how it all happened. Don't need to be mocking about him the whole time. He just doesn't know this much as we do now. But we didn't either when we werent in a really active clan or active in the gameplay at all...... Now lets stop this turning into an flamewar.
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