Athiest

Anybody else here an athiest?

I'm largely an atheist, though I do follow a conservative catholic culture and have my own spiritual beliefs. I've become rather interested in the occult lately, as well.

There is no skydaddy, nonetheless.

作者： Guest, 21.02.2017 at 09:42

I'm largely an atheist, though I do follow a conservative catholic culture and have my own spiritual beliefs. I've become rather interested in the occult lately, as well.

There is no skydaddy, nonetheless.

Nothing wrong with being interested in religious or occult ideas without being religious.
They are after all, very interesting and fascinating things to read, like a good fiction.

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 09:46

Nothing wrong with being interested in religious or occult ideas without being religious.
They are after all, very interesting and fascinating things to read, like a good fiction.

+1 My respect level for you just doubled

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 09:46

作者： Guest, 21.02.2017 at 09:42

I'm largely an atheist, though I do follow a conservative catholic culture and have my own spiritual beliefs. I've become rather interested in the occult lately, as well.

There is no skydaddy, nonetheless.

Nothing wrong with being interested in religious or occult ideas without being religious.
They are after all, very interesting and fascinating things to read, like a good fiction.

*tips fedora*

But in all honestly, the plural usage of memetics this past year has proven to me that the underlying psychosis of humanity is easily manipulated through varying acts of the occult. Magick does not exist in the sense of producing matter from none, moreso being able to manipulate the thought processes and ideal transfusion of concepts and ideologies through means not normally noticed through life. "They Live" is a very blunt and simple illustration of this concept. Occultism works in the sense of manipulation and indirect control, not to mention its many other facets such as Herbology and proto-Science. So when you say the Occult is "like a good fiction", I must kindly disagree and implore you research the subject in minor totality before you make a hasty conclusion.

作者： Guest, 21.02.2017 at 10:04

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 09:46

作者： Guest, 21.02.2017 at 09:42

I'm largely an atheist, though I do follow a conservative catholic culture and have my own spiritual beliefs. I've become rather interested in the occult lately, as well.

There is no skydaddy, nonetheless.

Nothing wrong with being interested in religious or occult ideas without being religious.
They are after all, very interesting and fascinating things to read, like a good fiction.

*tips fedora*

But in all honestly, the plural usage of memetics this past year has proven to me that the underlying psychosis of humanity is easily manipulated through varying acts of the occult. Magick does not exist in the sense of producing matter from none, moreso being able to manipulate the thought processes and ideal transfusion of concepts and ideologies through means not normally noticed through life. "They Live" is a very blunt and simple illustration of this concept. Occultism works in the sense of manipulation and indirect control, not to mention its many other facets such as Herbology and proto-Science. So when you say the Occult is "like a good fiction", I must kindly disagree and implore you research the subject in minor totality before you make a hasty conclusion.

Fiction mean that it is made up. Unless you are saying the occult is real, then it is fiction. Simple as that.

Hey

When I was a younger man I was also an atheist, I was angry and disheartened by misfortune, and believed no god would ever let his children suffer like this and in that I gave up my faith. Only years later did I come to understand our god as less of a earthly Devine who watches over us and more as a creator who's purpose was not ment to guide but to create and let us create. We are merely a small spec in the cosmos it would be ignorant and arrogant to believe we are the only beings in infinite creation, and that or creators solely watches us and only us dictating our actions as if we are toys for a small child.

I do not believe in heaven or hell, I believe in death we return into a purest form of energy, and our energy is used to create new life, we are star dust and will one day return to dust.

Untill we can prove how the anomaly known as the big bang occurred I believe we where created with the purpose of creation, look at how a human is created billions of cells working in unity to form a being, doesn't that make humans themselves like cells to planet earth? Doesn't that make planets and stars cells to the universe? Couldn't the universe itself be a being? How far does it go? Just some stuff to think about.

Allah is the one true god, INFIDELS !

Jesus is the messiah

作者： 4nic, 21.02.2017 at 12:44

Allah is the one true god, INFIDELS !

Hail Zoroastar!

作者： Wheelo, 21.02.2017 at 12:50

Jesus is the messiah

DO NOT MOCK ODIN THE ALL FATHER YOU FOOL!

Helly, I think thats the concept of Gaya (the Earth in totality as a being) extended to the whole Cosmos, interesting. Also, you dont believe in heaven or hell, but I find interesting not this in particular, but the idea that heaven and hell are here on Earth and during our lifespan, thus our life receives even greater importance, as that something that we get for sure.

>christianity true religion
>other religions exist only because christianity does not use wars and force to spread (don't mix with catholicism)
>atheism is greatest satanist achievement
>make people abandon god, then let them believe they are independent, final step is conversion to satanism

You think i'm wrong? Check western holidays.

>christmas without church and prayers, but with commercialization and capitalization
>halloween instead christian holidays, worship of death instead life, celebrating at night instead day, zombies instead saints

Russia was forced into atheism openly during communism, you think West will be spared?

作者： Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 15:06

>christianity true religion
>other religions exist only because christianity does not use wars and force to spread (don't mix with catholicism)
>atheism is greatest satanist achievement
>make people abandon god, then let them believe they are independent, final step is conversion to satanism

You think i'm wrong? Check western holidays.

>christmas without church and prayers, but with commercialization and capitalization
>halloween instead christian holidays, worship of death instead life, celebrating at night instead day, zombies instead saints

Russia was forced into atheism openly during communism, you think West will be spared?

Does what I posted above sound like satanism to you?

作者： Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 15:06

>christianity true religion
>other religions exist only because christianity does not use wars and force to spread (don't mix with catholicism)
>atheism is greatest satanist achievement
>make people abandon god, then let them believe they are independent, final step is conversion to satanism

You think i'm wrong? Check western holidays.

>christmas without church and prayers, but with commercialization and capitalization
>halloween instead christian holidays, worship of death instead life, celebrating at night instead day, zombies instead saints

Russia was forced into atheism openly during communism, you think West will be spared?

How is atheism satanist?

Hint: Atheist do not even believe in the devil noob.

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 17:15

How is atheism satanist?

Hint: Atheist do not even believe in the devil noob.

Atheism is their creation. Because they cannot convert people to satanism instantly, they need a middle stage, and that is atheism.

>christian
>atheist
>satanist

Christian cannot switch to satanism instantly, it need a second stage and atheism fills that role. Point is he have to really believe he is free and independent and its his choice. Then third stage is next but it is not voluntarily anymore, it will be forced upon him and he will be helpless to defend against it.

作者： Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 18:28

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 17:15

How is atheism satanist?

Hint: Atheist do not even believe in the devil noob.

Atheism is their creation. Because they cannot convert people to satanism instantly, they need a middle stage, and that is atheism.

>christian
>atheist
>satanist

Christian cannot switch to satanism instantly, it need a second stage and atheism fills that role. Point is he have to really believe he is free and independent and its his choice. Then third stage is next but it is not voluntarily anymore, it will be forced upon him and he will be helpless to defend against it.

Citations please.

作者： Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 18:28

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 17:15

How is atheism satanist?

Hint: Atheist do not even believe in the devil noob.

Atheism is their creation. Because they cannot convert people to satanism instantly, they need a middle stage, and that is atheism.

>christian
>atheist
>satanist

Christian cannot switch to satanism instantly, it need a second stage and atheism fills that role. Point is he have to really believe he is free and independent and its his choice. Then third stage is next but it is not voluntarily anymore, it will be forced upon him and he will be helpless to defend against it.

Thats far fetched even for you. You realise the big hole in your logic right? When someone goes from christian to atheist, that means he decided to give up on "believing" and started "observing" and "knowing". After that individual decides to start looking at the world around him through the lens of science and empirical knowledge, theres no turning back to believing in imaginary beings.

作者： Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 18:47

Thats far fetched even for you. You realise the big hole in your logic right? When someone goes from christian to atheist, that means he decided to give up on "believing" and started "observing" and "knowing". After that individual decides to start looking at the world around him through the lens of science and empirical knowledge, theres no turning back to believing in imaginary beings.

Atheist always use science and arguments to back up their belief, but in reality they are fanatics, and they attack christians, not vice versa. Atleast in my country. They are militant and christians are defenders.

I find more science in christianity than atheism. Stones, mountains, water, chemistry, species, blood, genetics. But from recently, as we need technology to test religious claims, before we couldn't because we were backward. Bible is already 80% tested and it have grounds in science, but we still need more advanced technology to test another 20% and i don't think we will fail, since 80% is already true.

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 10:58

作者： Guest, 21.02.2017 at 10:04

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 09:46

作者： Guest, 21.02.2017 at 09:42

I'm largely an atheist, though I do follow a conservative catholic culture and have my own spiritual beliefs. I've become rather interested in the occult lately, as well.

There is no skydaddy, nonetheless.

Nothing wrong with being interested in religious or occult ideas without being religious.
They are after all, very interesting and fascinating things to read, like a good fiction.

*tips fedora*

But in all honestly, the plural usage of memetics this past year has proven to me that the underlying psychosis of humanity is easily manipulated through varying acts of the occult. Magick does not exist in the sense of producing matter from none, moreso being able to manipulate the thought processes and ideal transfusion of concepts and ideologies through means not normally noticed through life. "They Live" is a very blunt and simple illustration of this concept. Occultism works in the sense of manipulation and indirect control, not to mention its many other facets such as Herbology and proto-Science. So when you say the Occult is "like a good fiction", I must kindly disagree and implore you research the subject in minor totality before you make a hasty conclusion.

Fiction mean that it is made up. Unless you are saying the occult is real, then it is fiction. Simple as that.

It's fairly obvious you didn't read what I said, or your fedora is cutting the circulation to your brain off.

作者： Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 18:56

Atheist always use science and arguments to back up their belief, but in reality they are fanatics, and they attack christians, not vice versa. Atleast in my country. They are militant and christians are defenders.

I find more science in christianity than atheism. Stones, mountains, water, chemistry, species, blood, genetics. But from recently, as we need technology to test religious claims, before we couldn't because we were backward. Bible is already 80% tested and it have grounds in science, but we still need more advanced technology to test another 20% and i don't think we will fail, since 80% is already true.

whats your country again?

作者： Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 18:56

作者： Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 18:47

Thats far fetched even for you. You realise the big hole in your logic right? When someone goes from christian to atheist, that means he decided to give up on "believing" and started "observing" and "knowing". After that individual decides to start looking at the world around him through the lens of science and empirical knowledge, theres no turning back to believing in imaginary beings.

Atheist always use science and arguments to back up their belief, but in reality they are fanatics, and they attack christians, not vice versa. Atleast in my country. They are militant and christians are defenders.

I find more science in christianity than atheism. Stones, mountains, water, chemistry, species, blood, genetics. But from recently, as we need technology to test religious claims, before we couldn't because we were backward. Bible is already 80% tested and it have grounds in science, but we still need more advanced technology to test another 20% and i don't think we will fail, since 80% is already true.

I doubt the atheist scene in Russia or Serbia is as agressive as you say. For the atheist community to be as vocal as in US/Europe you need to have a solid backround of freedom of speech and information and a liberal socially progressive base, both things that modern Russia lack.

As for science in christianity, really? Have you actually read the bible and have you passed elementary school physics and biology? The bible got almost everything wrong, even from the start. The sad truth is we dont have to read it all, just from the first pages we can figure out, its just normal men trying to explain the world around them, while knowing so few about it.


Examples.

1. The earth is 4000 years old according to the bible. Tons of evidence tell us its billions of years?

2. Light came before the sun and stars. Lol. Was it god's lamp? Who gave the light if not the stars and sun?

3. Here is the big mind fuck. Earth was created on the 3rd day. Lmao. Get it? 3rd day, as in -> we had days and nights then, even though day and night are dependent on the rotation of that same earth (that wasnt even created yet)

4. Plants grew on the 3rd day before the first sun light came into 4th day. I thought plants needed sun light to grow, i guess science was different back then right?

5. Earth was created before the stars and sun But we know that for the earth to take its form and also sustain life, heavier elements were needed like oxygen and carbon and those were a result of stars going supernova, there was literally no other way to get them. So the hundreds of billions of planets that exist in each of the hundreds of billions of galaxies in our universe, needed heavy elements from star explosion to be created, but hey NOT EARTH. God created earth specifically with his magic wand xD

5. Noahs ark? So many really. 5 million species, not that very easy to smuggle in a boat, aye? Not to mention what kind of rain is needed to fill the whole of earth and cover the mountains. How about how did the water magically dissapeared?

6. Bible says there were giants in earth. Lol. How come we have found dinosaur fossils from 200 million years old, but we cant find a single little bone from a giant?

Honestly its a good book though. Good read, unless you take it literally, then you are possibly crazee. (Quran is worst)


p.s. lol i forgot about that time when a star actually fell from the sky to the earth. Bible says it was a little tiny object that you could hold in your hand..

作者： Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 15:06

>christianity true religion
>other religions exist only because christianity does not use wars and force to spread (don't mix with catholicism)
>atheism is greatest satanist achievement
>make people abandon god, then let them believe they are independent, final step is conversion to satanism

You think i'm wrong? Check western holidays.

>christmas without church and prayers, but with commercialization and capitalization
>halloween instead christian holidays, worship of death instead life, celebrating at night instead day, zombies instead saints

Russia was forced into atheism openly during communism, you think West will be spared?

So many fallacies and wrong conceptions.

1. There is no "true" religion.
2. "Christianity does not use wars and force to spread" what a bullshit... colonialism was, more or less, about that; at least it was the religious argument that gave "legitimacy" for the genocides in several continents.
3. Atheism has absolutely nothing to do with satanism. atheism does not accept the existence of a God, thus, it cannot accept the existence of something like Satan. Satanists worship Satan, but accept the existence of a God.
4. As an atheist I believe in no religious dogma, specially not in the hokus-pokus-fear-making bullshit of Satan. this i leave to religious people (and their antithesis satanists).
5. Check on the "día de los muertos" festivities in Mexico (and some other countries) and you will see that it is quite in line with Christianity (specially Catholicism).

Nice try to construct some alternate truths.

作者： Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 19:49

Examples.

1. The earth is 4000 years old according to the bible. Tons of evidence tell us its billions of years?

2. Light came before the sun and stars. Lol. Was it god's lamp? Who gave the light if not the stars and sun?

3. Here is the big mind fuck. Earth was created on the 3rd day. Lmao. Get it? 3rd day, as in -> we had days and nights then, even though day and night are dependent on the rotation of that same earth (that wasnt even created yet)

4. Plants grew on the 3rd day before the first sun light came into 4th day. I thought plants needed sun light to grow, i guess science was different back then right?

5. Earth was created before the stars and sun But we know that for the earth to take its form and also sustain life, heavier elements were needed like oxygen and carbon and those were a result of stars going supernova, there was literally no other way to get them. So the hundreds of billions of planets that exist in each of the hundreds of billions of galaxies in our universe, needed heavy elements from star explosion to be created, but hey NOT EARTH. God created earth specifically with his magic wand xD

5. Noahs ark? So many really. 5 million species, not that very easy to smuggle in a boat, aye? Not to mention what kind of rain is needed to fill the whole of earth and cover the mountains. How about how did the water magically dissapeared?

6. Bible says there were giants in earth. Lol. How come we have found dinosaur fossils from 200 million years old, but we cant find a single little bone from a giant?

Honestly its a good book though. Good read, unless you take it literally, then you are possibly crazee. (Quran is worst)

All of those examples are from the Old Testament which is only taken literally by nutjobs, true members of the faith realize that the Old Testament stories such as the creation story and Noah's Ark are only meant to teach a lesson and not provide an actual account of what happened

作者： Viruslegion, 21.02.2017 at 22:53

作者： Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 19:49

Examples.

1. The earth is 4000 years old according to the bible. Tons of evidence tell us its billions of years?

2. Light came before the sun and stars. Lol. Was it god's lamp? Who gave the light if not the stars and sun?

3. Here is the big mind fuck. Earth was created on the 3rd day. Lmao. Get it? 3rd day, as in -> we had days and nights then, even though day and night are dependent on the rotation of that same earth (that wasnt even created yet)

4. Plants grew on the 3rd day before the first sun light came into 4th day. I thought plants needed sun light to grow, i guess science was different back then right?

5. Earth was created before the stars and sun But we know that for the earth to take its form and also sustain life, heavier elements were needed like oxygen and carbon and those were a result of stars going supernova, there was literally no other way to get them. So the hundreds of billions of planets that exist in each of the hundreds of billions of galaxies in our universe, needed heavy elements from star explosion to be created, but hey NOT EARTH. God created earth specifically with his magic wand xD

5. Noahs ark? So many really. 5 million species, not that very easy to smuggle in a boat, aye? Not to mention what kind of rain is needed to fill the whole of earth and cover the mountains. How about how did the water magically dissapeared?

6. Bible says there were giants in earth. Lol. How come we have found dinosaur fossils from 200 million years old, but we cant find a single little bone from a giant?

Honestly its a good book though. Good read, unless you take it literally, then you are possibly crazee. (Quran is worst)

All of those examples are from the Old Testament which is only taken literally by nutjobs, true members of the faith realize that the Old Testament stories such as the creation story and Noah's Ark are only meant to teach a lesson and not provide an actual account of what happened

https://infidels.org/library/modern/paul_carlson/nt_contradictions.html

作者： Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 19:49

作者： Skanderbeg, 21.02.2017 at 18:56

作者： Khal.eesi, 21.02.2017 at 18:47

Atheist always use science and arguments to back up their belief, but in reality they are fanatics, and they attack christians, not vice versa. Atleast in my country. They are militant and christians are defenders.

I doubt the atheist scene in Russia or Serbia is as agressive as you say. For the atheist community to be as vocal as in US/Europe you need to have a solid backround of freedom of speech and information and a liberal socially progressive base, both things that modern Russia lack.

As for science in christianity, really? Have you actually read the bible and have you passed elementary school physics and biology? The bible got almost everything wrong, even from the start. The sad truth is we dont have to read it all, just from the first pages we can figure out, its just normal men trying to explain the world around them, while knowing so few about it.


Examples.

1. The earth is 4000 years old according to the bible. Tons of evidence tell us its billions of years?

2. Light came before the sun and stars. Lol. Was it god's lamp? Who gave the light if not the stars and sun?

3. Here is the big mind fuck. Earth was created on the 3rd day. Lmao. Get it? 3rd day, as in -> we had days and nights then, even though day and night are dependent on the rotation of that same earth (that wasnt even created yet)

4. Plants grew on the 3rd day before the first sun light came into 4th day. I thought plants needed sun light to grow, i guess science was different back then right?

5. Earth was created before the stars and sun But we know that for the earth to take its form and also sustain life, heavier elements were needed like oxygen and carbon and those were a result of stars going supernova, there was literally no other way to get them. So the hundreds of billions of planets that exist in each of the hundreds of billions of galaxies in our universe, needed heavy elements from star explosion to be created, but hey NOT EARTH. God created earth specifically with his magic wand xD

5. Noahs ark? So many really. 5 million species, not that very easy to smuggle in a boat, aye? Not to mention what kind of rain is needed to fill the whole of earth and cover the mountains. How about how did the water magically dissapeared?

6. Bible says there were giants in earth. Lol. How come we have found dinosaur fossils from 200 million years old, but we cant find a single little bone from a giant?

Honestly its a good book though. Good read, unless you take it literally, then you are possibly crazee. (Quran is worst)


p.s. lol i forgot about that time when a star actually fell from the sky to the earth. Bible says it was a little tiny object that you could hold in your hand..

Ive read the Epic of Ghilghamesh and I was surprised to find out a flood there (in a writing older than the Old Testament!), getting deeper into the matter I also found out that that flood happened, but in Levant region and stories circulated abt a man who survived along with his family and lots of animals, from here and its integration into the Decalogue by Moses and Noah into the line of Adam there was only one step. More or less, the Pentateuch is a collage of hit myths and things necessary and useful for the new people of Jews(+ obviously, the Law). And only one man to do that, in the time of peregrination, rioting and the from time to time habit of creating golden idols for worship of this people, ask me and its quite remarkable of what Moses did. Now dont take the Genesis literally, as you himself said. There are actually ppl who believe that the Earth is 6k old, fck the fossils and the other myriad of contrary proofs. XD

作者： Witch-Doctor, 21.02.2017 at 09:46

作者： Guest, 21.02.2017 at 09:42

I'm largely an atheist, though I do follow a conservative catholic culture and have my own spiritual beliefs. I've become rather interested in the occult lately, as well.

There is no skydaddy, nonetheless.

Nothing wrong with being interested in religious or occult ideas without being religious.
They are after all, very interesting and fascinating things to read, like a good fiction.

Its not fiction..jesus existed 2000 years ago didnt he? There is historical evidence.maybe he isnt the son of god but he existed as a historical figure

作者： Columna Durruti, 21.02.2017 at 20:24

So many fallacies and wrong conceptions.

1. There is no "true" religion.
2. "Christianity does not use wars and force to spread" what a bullshit... colonialism was, more or less, about that; at least it was the religious argument that gave "legitimacy" for the genocides in several continents.
3. Atheism has absolutely nothing to do with satanism. atheism does not accept the existence of a God, thus, it cannot accept the existence of something like Satan. Satanists worship Satan, but accept the existence of a God.
4. As an atheist I believe in no religious dogma, specially not in the hokus-pokus-fear-making bullshit of Satan. this i leave to religious people (and their antithesis satanists).
5. Check on the "día de los muertos" festivities in Mexico (and some other countries) and you will see that it is quite in line with Christianity (specially Catholicism).

Nice try to construct some alternate truths.

I was expecting some 9gag pic from you..

You are wrong with all you've mentioned:

1. Christianity is true religion - no other proved to have living God, all others pray to dead things like totems and idols
2. Colonialism was spread by catholic countries, not christian. Do not mix Christianity with Catholicism as Catholicism is new religion formed by people who broke off with Christianity in 1054 because they wanted gold, power and sheeps to control. In christianity you don't have a pope, or one leader, but a council of patriarchs who choose representative 'First among Equals' as we all know who is the leader and that is God so cannot be human.

There's only 1 group of people who broke off christianity and they are 'old believers' in Russia who use old calendar and church prayers from the time when Russian church modernized in 1600, i never heard for any group that broke off Bulgarian, Serbian or Greek christianity, while there are many groups which broke from Catholicism when they saw how oppressive and violent it is: Protestants, baptists, presbyterians, mormons.

Catholicism have a bank, a state called Vatican, army called Jesuits, they are fully fledged power like ISIS. No other religion have that i believe, certainly not Christianity, where monks dont leave their monasteries and priests only give advises and not rulebooks and sell sin-free certificates like catholics.

That is the basic things people make mistake and repeat your words for hundred years by now.