Rank limits and how they kill 3v3s
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I've heard so much blame on RPs, and i guess much is true, it really is a shitty scenario designed to get SP.
But just think about what you need SP for...ranking up, rank limits.
3v3s used to have no rank limit, then 5+,6+,7+ and now its 8+ usally. lately i heard rank 11s saying that some unknown rank 8s are getting worse, and its true.
But what do they do? Blame RP. But is it the fault of RPs, that rank 8s get worse, when we keep raising the rank limit for games that are actually decent training, making it impossible for ronk 6s to learn enjoying 3v3s and getting better? There is a HUGE inflation going on about ranks and rank limits, we should have low rank limits, 6+, 7+, so the people who arent good yet, can become better, make their own 3v3s, because they enjoyed them and make CWs that arent rape.
NO high rank seems to see how rank 6s, 7s, and 8s who come from r7 dont have had any training except shitty europe+ FFAs. why do you expect some r7 or r8 who hasnt had a 3v3 or the chance to play one ever to be any good?
Also another complaint i've heard is, that there seem to be less 3v3s, wich is totally true, because when there are only rank 8+s 3v3ing and cwing, there obviously are less peoiple playing 3v3s, than if everyone from rank 6+ is CWing and 3v3ing. what are you guys doing to AW? forcing people ,who want to advance, to play RPs because they need the SP to become rank 8 so they can finally 3v3, being a noob then, wanting to train, but the rank limit is running away from them.
My conclusion is, that RP is a result to rank limits
think about it.
Tirp out, hope you agree
But just think about what you need SP for...ranking up, rank limits.
3v3s used to have no rank limit, then 5+,6+,7+ and now its 8+ usally. lately i heard rank 11s saying that some unknown rank 8s are getting worse, and its true.
But what do they do? Blame RP. But is it the fault of RPs, that rank 8s get worse, when we keep raising the rank limit for games that are actually decent training, making it impossible for ronk 6s to learn enjoying 3v3s and getting better? There is a HUGE inflation going on about ranks and rank limits, we should have low rank limits, 6+, 7+, so the people who arent good yet, can become better, make their own 3v3s, because they enjoyed them and make CWs that arent rape.
NO high rank seems to see how rank 6s, 7s, and 8s who come from r7 dont have had any training except shitty europe+ FFAs. why do you expect some r7 or r8 who hasnt had a 3v3 or the chance to play one ever to be any good?
Also another complaint i've heard is, that there seem to be less 3v3s, wich is totally true, because when there are only rank 8+s 3v3ing and cwing, there obviously are less peoiple playing 3v3s, than if everyone from rank 6+ is CWing and 3v3ing. what are you guys doing to AW? forcing people ,who want to advance, to play RPs because they need the SP to become rank 8 so they can finally 3v3, being a noob then, wanting to train, but the rank limit is running away from them.
My conclusion is, that RP is a result to rank limits
think about it.
Tirp out, hope you agree
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>You guys are all premium, go make the ranklimits yourself? Isn't that hard.
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7+, now lock this topic.
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Chiming in from the perspective of a new rank 5 player. I personally have no issue with there being rank limits on games, it makes sense to want to have competitive game without noobs interfering. I think the point about low ranks not being able to play anything other than EU+ FFA, and random scenario games is severely limiting newer players from coming up and joining the "competitive end" of Atwar. The only solution I can think of is for more mid rank players maybe 5-8 create games in which they can play and learn. This is hard because if you dont set an upwards rank limit, some rank 9+ guys join, team up, and then crush everyone (because why not team with fellow high rank players when playing noobs?). However if you do set rank limits to something like 5-8 it is really hard to find players.
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I agree with you, but trust me on this: the best way to learn is to get crushed by high ranks. Once you get used to playing high ranks you'll crush all similar ranks, and eventually higher and higher ranks. 
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Hey Tactician thanks for the response. Getting crushed by high ranking players does seem like the best way to learn, all of the duals I have lost I have learned far more than any I have won. (my favorite was Clovis having like 200+ attack on my capital on turn 2 while I had hardly even expanded) That being said, the rank limit is still an issue here and I dont see a good way around it. Because new players like me learn the game best by playing with higher ups, and high ranking players are not going to want to have some rank 5-7 on their 3v3 team. Also most guides are geared to expansions and strategies with upgrades already purchased, so it is a slow process working out expansion without upgrades like "faster infantry" or higher "max transports". I have even thought about figuring out some good opening expansions and making a noobs guide to Atwar for like rank 6 and below.
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That's the point, work out expansions for yourself.
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Just make ppl think he an alt, that's how I got into sa and now I can play 3v3s cuz of black swans
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It's wild to think when he made this thread I was indeed most likely playing RP xD
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It's selfish to think that people are going to sacrifice their joy time to teach someone else, and game after game do that. Lot of ppl have premium, they can make game
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it's wild to think that i wrote this when i was 14
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Damn you are a child xD
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well, i'll turn 18 in a month, but i surely was one
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Welcome to "adulthood"!  you may now drink legally
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Yeah #STOPRANKISM How I can be better if I can't play ?
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bah, i'm german, as if i got anything from turning 18. i could drink legally before, all i got is a burocratic clusterfuck of having to renew all the paperwork with the banks
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