Hidden history is war between germans and slavs, as germans got jealous slavic culture is advanced althought oppressions from turks and mongols.
German philosophers, poems and historians like Ranke and Goethe learned serbian so they can translate serbian poems to german and teach that in schools.
are you mindfuck? like, seriously? did someone stick a dick into your ear, cum, and this is the result?
goethe spoke english, latin, italian, french and hebrew. No slavic languange. and i have to say, nice thing you made up, that slavs had any real poets compared to germany, with: Schiller, Goethe, Nietzsche, theodor storm or Wilhelm busch.
Hitler knew he cant prove and impose aryanism if he dont destroy slavs first as slavic culture, tradition and valor is above germanic, so he killed 20 million russians, ukrainians, poles and serbs.
If you see WW1 casualties, you will see that Serbia and Russia lose the most, because german and austrian soldiers didnt kill civilians on the western front, only on the eastern.
the war in the east was more brutal overall. Russian soldiers raped polish, german, baltic and even russian women, shot males, when they wanted to and made the rest flee. If russian or german, germans at least didnt rape millions of women and then claimed to have liberated them.
West made propaganda how Belgium was 'raped' and they are repeating that over and over again, but truth is Belgium lost 2000 people.
Serbia lost 1,300,000, 25% of total population. Serbia is the one who got raped but that should be hidden as Serbia is slavic, it is supposed to be destroyed so Germany can prove superiority.
"rape" in this context means blitzkrieg, loosing in about 5 days.
Austrian and German soldiers didnt rape and hang people in France or Romania, but they did in Serbia and Russia during WW1.
Germans didnt genocide France or Belgium/Netherland, but Germans did genocide Poles, Ukrainians/Russians and Serbs again in WW2.
See casualties of WW2, 500,000 french and dutch compared to 20 million slavs.
That didnt stop there, it reduced in intensity, but still continues through german americans. 60% of white americans are german descendants.
USA used chemical weapon on Vietnam, but USA used nuclear weapon on Serbia, they also bombed hospitals and cities so people cant organize to defend.
20,000 serbs die from cancer caused by nuclear radiation every year.
if you win a war quickly and make a "french governement" there, you wont have problems with revolutions, because you have 100% control over the people and control their beliefs with propaganda.
9,000,000 germans, 20 million slavs, in wich you included jews, that dont even belong into your argument. btw, raping your own women is a good way to increase your own war casulities.
there were no chemical weapons used in vietnam, "only" napalm.
and if you take all the cancer deaths in serbia and say it was because of radiation...look at the 218.889 germans that die from Tschernobyl every year, that russians made explode on purpose, so germany gets some fallout >_<
Thats hidden truth behind German-Slavic wars which world know under name 'First World War' and 'Second World War'.
Not some stupid conspiracy theory how Jews are evil and they want to take over the world. Thats one of lies to confuse and mislead generations and keep
them away from the truth.
i'm a quarter pole and three fourths german,
bugger off with your serbian
dont write bullshits on AW forums
you dont know how many people were formed
like me, a little slav, just a little sperm
that made me half pole half a germ
Tito, it seems you like to separate Russians from Soviets. I can understand this, seeing as the Soviet Union was made of groupings of all different people, including Russians, Ukrainians, and Belorussians. So wouldn't only be fair to separate the Third Reich from Germany? The Third Reich comprised of Germans, Austrians, and Czechs, among others. So while you like to say 'Soviet' when it makes Russians look bad; i.e. "Chernobyl is human mistake, scientist forgot to cool nuclear reactor. It was soviet scientist not russian, excuse moi, so you cant blame russians", you always say 'Germans' to describe an atrocity committed by The Third Reich.
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Laochra¹: i pray to the great zizou, that my tb stops the airtrans of the yellow infidel
Recently i have proven this in the balkan forum to be one of your disgusting lies ...but you had no shame, no morals to apologize, but you repeat that proven lie again.
Keeps insulting, keeps lying ...mods dont do shit.
Sends me messages, provokes then puts me on ignore like a coward.
Recently i have proven this in the balkan forum to be one of your disgusting lies ...but you had no shame, no morals to apologize, but you repeat that proven lie again.
Keeps insulting, keeps lying ...mods dont do shit.
Sends me messages, provokes then puts me on ignore like a coward.
Even if this was true, I wouldn't be ashamed of it, the Nazis rebuilt Germany from nothing, they were political and economic geniuses
Even if this was true, I wouldn't be ashamed of it, the Nazis rebuilt Germany from nothing, they were political and economic geniuses
There is nothing genius in enslaving people and send them to work 20h everyday for bread and water. Nazi Germany used force labor of million germans to repair roads, tunnels, bridges, make hangars, stores, bases, barracks, training centers, airfields, fortresses, tanks, planes, guns, ammo. When they saw thats not enough, they enslaved people from other nations, like poles, russians, ukrainians, serbs, french.
Nazi Germany economy was 100% focused on military-industrial complex. Producing weapons, uniforms, gloves, boots, belts, backpacks. German agricultural products were distributed 70% for the army, 30% for german cities. They didnt had currency, but Mefo bills, because money would inflate from all the spamming of products.
Everything tell in Nazi Germany they were preparing for war: nazi party, hate speeches, ghettos, stripping human rights from non-germans.
If that doesnt make you ashamed, then you are evil bad person who is menace for world peace and stability.
Yes, I'm evil, but the person who constantly endorses Stalinist communism, which accounted for nearly 5 times as many deaths, is a perfectly moral individual, get off your high horse Tito, everyone knows you're full of shit
Even if this was true, I wouldn't be ashamed of it, the Nazis rebuilt Germany from nothing, they were political and economic geniuses
There is nothing genius in enslaving people and send them to work 20h everyday for bread and water. Nazi Germany used force labor of million germans to repair roads, tunnels, bridges, make hangars, stores, bases, barracks, training centers, airfields, fortresses, tanks, planes, guns, ammo. When they saw thats not enough, they enslaved people from other nations, like poles, russians, ukrainians, serbs, french.
Nazi Germany economy was 100% focused on military-industrial complex. Producing weapons, uniforms, gloves, boots, belts, backpacks. German agricultural products were distributed 70% for the army, 30% for german cities. They didnt had currency, but Mefo bills, because money would inflate from all the spamming of products.
Everything tell in Nazi Germany they were preparing for war: nazi party, hate speeches, ghettos, stripping human rights from non-germans.
If that doesnt make you ashamed, then you are evil bad person who is menace for world peace and stability.
yea, yea, wise words, tito. never thought i'd say that one day...
even though i doubt that 70% to 30%, it may be switched around, 30% of your food production for your army already is a lot. Also, hitler didnt only do hate speeches, he wasnt that stupid. at the olympic games, when all the attention of the world was at germany, he did really peaceful speeches, but when nobody paied attention, he made the...kinda...let's say "less peaceful" speeches
Yes, I'm evil, but the person who constantly endorses Stalinist communism, which accounted for nearly 5 times as many deaths, is a perfectly moral individual, get off your high horse Tito, everyone knows you're full of shit
Yes i endorse Stalinism as opposed to Leninism. Stalinism means Socialism in One Country, Leninism means World Revolution and im against to take and undermine other states, i dont care for them, i care only for my own country, i want to develop it, restore order, make my people rich and safe. Soviet Union with Stalin's mandate as Premier had 26% economic growth from 1930 to 1941 while USA had recession and economic/financial crisis.
5 times as many deaths? 5 times compared to what? I already proved that 3 million died from starvation and cold because that couldnt be prevented, state was weak yet to do anything because of civil war, ww1, revolution, crime and chaos. USA had 3 million deaths from starvation and riots in Great Depression, so whats the difference, why you blame USSR and not US government for american death toll?
You are blind for facts and talk shit only to distant Soviet Union/Russia from the World. But that wont happen since World is dependant or Russian economy and resources. Thats why germans are smart, they dont trashtalk Russia but they do business with them, making profit. USA is pissed off because of that but hey, Germany is independent, USA cant order them what to do
I admit 5 was off, I had the wrong brutal communist regime in mind, 3 times, then, numbers based off the ~16 million killed in Holocaust compared to ~40 million killed in stalins great purge.
Never once have I mentioned the Us was perfect, we are not discussing the 3 million that died in America because of FDR's autistic policies, get it out of your head that I think the USA is perfect or even good, because it is 100% false, much like some other "facts" you claim.
I admit 5 was off, I had the wrong brutal communist regime in mind, 3 times, then, numbers based off the ~16 million killed in Holocaust compared to ~40 million killed in stalins great purge.
Never once have I mentioned the Us was perfect, we are not discussing the 3 million that died in America because of FDR's autistic policies, get it out of your head that I think the USA is perfect or even good, because it is 100% false, much like some other "facts" you claim.
No, Germany is guilty for 50 million in Europe, Japan attacked China in 1936 so we cant blame Germany for allying Japan when they attacked before. Germany is guilty for 10 million dead germans, 1 million dead british and french, 800,000 dead romanians, 1,5 million dead serbs, 5 milion poles, 27 million soviets.
I dont know why you separate WW2 from Holocaust, like you dont recognize german fault for war. If Germany didnt armed and started WW2 there wouldnt be 50 million dead europeans, and USSR & USA could help China to stop Japan so 20 million chinese would not die.
Also 40 million people dead in 'great purge' is laughable. There wasnt such thing, western propaganda use made that up to make USSR and Socialism look bad, because they were afraid western states dont become communist and stop the rich to become super-rich by stealing from the nation[which happened]. Year 1937 was year when NKVD and Soviet Police arrested more criminals and suspects than previous year and west used that to 'claim' great purge. Soviet Law also allowed execution for heavy crimes like rape, murder, bribing, selling/owning drugs, and law was enforced, which western propaganda used to claim 'communism kills'. But Soviet Police and Soviet Justice just enforced laws, there wasnt oppression.
But this helped me alot, because i didnt knew, tik tok mentioned first, and i was stunned. Because i never heard before people compare Nazism to Communism as thats like comparing bicycle and building wall - two totally different things. And people even use 'great purge' to compare with nazi crimes to claim how communism is more bad because it killed more than nazism. Amazing how far people will go to fullfill their interest.
Old people's proverb ''he would sell his own mother if he will make good profit'' is true afterall...
The fault for WW2 does not lie with Germany, it lies with England and France being too harsh with the Treaty of Versailles, anyone who knows anything about the world wars could tell you that
Yes, I forgot, to you anythng that a communist government did that was wrong must be Western Propaganda, it's like talking to a Turk about the Armenian Genocide.
yes, stupid people do compare Nazism and Communism, not realizing that they are opposite, scary isn't it?
The fault for WW2 does not lie with Germany, it lies with England and France being too harsh with the Treaty of Versailles, anyone who knows anything about the world wars could tell you that
Yes, I forgot, to you anythng that a communist government did that was wrong must be Western Propaganda, it's like talking to a Turk about the Armenian Genocide.
yes, stupid people do compare Nazism and Communism, not realizing that they are opposite, scary isn't it?
Well, 99% is propaganda, because west never touched an issue of real problem with communism and USSR mistake, like mishandling and misusing collectivism or isolationism.
Lets see, how much do you know about collectivism for example? thats the core of the communism, the very first stone of communist ideology and foundation. I doubt you or any other on the west know because they never heard of it, but you heard of 'red menace' of course, then those scary dark anti-communist posters from cold war era.
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Too harsh? you really believe in that? Compare 1918 to 1945, which germany ended better, German Empire or Nazi Germany? German Empire just had to disarm and pay reparations, Nazi Germany was OCCUPIED, its citizens left to starve, half state become capitalist and other half communist, foreign troops stay permanently on their own territory, so whats better?
Treaty of Versailles was normal, similar to any other peace treaty signed in the past between any nations. You lose - pay tribute, simple as that.
But nazis used ''cruel treaty'' as excuse to blame jews for german, and then world's problems. Imagine that. Like there is connection between all that. Fucking psychos are those nazis, i tell you that.
Yes, everything the western media reports is propaganda, of course you are the reigning expert on that topic, I'm sure you sit down and watch CNN all the time and can tell what is propaganda.
Collectivism basically is placing a greater focus on human interdependence, society comes before the individual, I'm no expert on collectivism so I can't say how accurate that was.
The treaty was too harsh, Germany, especially after fighting a war of that scale and losing all its colonies, along with the Rhineland and much of Eastern Prussia, had no way to pay back such huge sums of money, simple economics.
also, don't be confused and think that I share the Nazis views on Jews because I don't, stop acting as if I feel the Nazis were perfect, because again, incorrect.
Yes, everything the western media reports is propaganda, of course you are the reigning expert on that topic, I'm sure you sit down and watch CNN all the time and can tell what is propaganda.
For me it is. I watched CNN 10 years[1991-2000] and im sick of the western media, believe it or not. You cant imagine how much lies they threw on us in 90's. Hollywood made a movie because of that, called 'Wag the Dog' to reflect situation that happened. For example, we had prisoners of war, so we transport them to prison and wait few weeks for enemy to answer if they gonna exchange prisoners so our comrades return and we release prisoners. CNN come[freedom of movement and reporters without limits] take a picture of those prisoners and report to USA ''serbian concentration camp'' ''serbian death camp where 5000 died'', while in reality that was place where they waited exchange, and serbia didnt even existed back then, it was Yugoslavia, Yugoslav multiethnic people's Army fighting nationalist insurgents. Then western media take a photo of of christian graves where mothers cried for their dead children, and report to West ''muslim graves from genocided civilians perpertared by serbs'' and you can see cross above graves so it cant be muslim... We were really confused back then why is West so much against serbs, while our army and state was multiethnic. 10 years later i realize that they are against serbs because West think Serbia is little Russia in the middle of Europe and that scares them.
The treaty was too harsh, Germany, especially after fighting a war of that scale and losing all its colonies, along with the Rhineland and much of Eastern Prussia, had no way to pay back such huge sums of money, simple economics.
also, don't be confused and think that I share the Nazis views on Jews because I don't, stop acting as if I feel the Nazis were perfect, because again, incorrect.
But no one forces Germany to pay reparations immediately. It could pay debt in 50-100 years, no one would have problem with that. So again, excuse was made by nazi germans to break versaille treaty, arm and start war again.
the media reports on the Yugoslav wars were pretty bad, then again, it isn't like Muslims genociding Christians isn't uncommon
Yes, you could do that, and end up paying enormous sums of interest on the debt, which is extremely impractical, the treaty stripped Germany of some its most valuable land, that alone is reason enough for another war, also, I find it interesting that in anything except this you will go to any length to prove that the west was in the wrong.
the media reports on the Yugoslav wars were pretty bad, then again, it isn't like Muslims genociding Christians isn't uncommon
Yes, you could do that, and end up paying enormous sums of interest on the debt, which is extremely impractical, the treaty stripped Germany of some its most valuable land, that alone is reason enough for another war, also, I find it interesting that in anything except this you will go to any length to prove that the west was in the wrong.
Thats the point of reparations, to support me rebuilding my country because you ruined it[France]. Germans are hardworking people, they could pay it in 50 years without problem.
Yes, Germany lost Rhineland and Prussia, thats the law. When you kill my population, in return, i take your land. Because we are civilized and i wont avenge my population by killing yours, thats barbaric. Germany had no right to take those lands back.
Soviet Union took Konigsberg[Kalinigrad], Poland took Prussia and Silesia, France took Alsac-Lorraine etc.
China could take territories of Japan, like Okinawa and Iwo Jima, but americans didnt let because they didnt want communist chinese to have bases there.
Great Powers proposed Serbia to have Bosnia and half of Croatia[regions of austria-hungary] as war reparation and reward for contribution to Entente after WW1[notorious great serbia feared from croats], but serbs refused and instead made Yugoslavia to copy british style of united kingdom[britain had english, scots and welsh, yugoslavia had serbs, croats, slovenes]
Even today, that law is valid, Irak, Libya, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Syria can request american soil as war reparations for dead civilians perpertrated by US army. Which i strongly recommend and support. That actually might happen in few decades when Russia and China get stronger and propose to UN and International Court for War Crimes. Thats not nothing special as USA have 10 million km^2, it will be stripped for 2-3 states and thats it.
Yes, but why lump so much of the punishment on Germany? Germany did not start the war, Germany just supported its ally, Germany should have been punished, yes, but Austria - Hungary should have taken the bulk of the punishment.
Interesting about the Serbs refusing to take land, never knew that, another reason Serbs are best Balkan Race
Yes, but why lump so much of the punishment on Germany? Germany did not start the war, Germany just supported its ally, Germany should have been punished, yes, but Austria - Hungary should have taken the bulk of the punishment.
Interesting about the Serbs refusing to take land, never knew that, another reason Serbs are best Balkan Race
Austria did started the war, true, but Germany lead it to be honest. Austrian Command and HQ obeyed German High Command. Austria declare war on Serbia, Russia declare war on Austria, Germany declare war on Russia.
Germany didnt had to declare war, but stay neutral while Russia and Austria fight.
Also Germany used chemical weapon, Austria didnt as i remember, austrians 'just' used cold weapon like knife to kill civilians.
Thats why Germany had to pay more and because Austria after 1918 was too small to pay war reparations. Instead, Austria had to pay in territory.
Germany was too small to pay the war reperations after 1918 as well, I might be wrong but I think Germany finally paid off its WW1 debts only 5 or 6 years ago, plus Germany also had to pay with land.
Germany was too small to pay the war reperations after 1918 as well, I might be wrong but I think Germany finally paid off its WW1 debts only 5 or 6 years ago, plus Germany also had to pay with land.
Because, in the meantime, Germany again tried to conquer the world, lost and made another debt[reparation for ww2 damage], bigger than previous. So it took 90 years instead 50 to pay off debts.
Imagine if German Empire was smart enough not to help Austria-Hungary, or even persuade them to avoid attacking Serbia. Today 2014, German Empire would have 600,000 km^2, still have Prussia and Silesia, Konigsberg would be German, German economy would be 3#, stronger than Japanese in GDP terms and would have 100 million germans instead 80.
Also they would have Kaiser, which is cool as its represent tradition and history. Holy Roman Empire/Kingdom of Prussia/German Empire was always monarchy, but instead they are ''federal republic'' with chancellor, thats lame.
Atleast UK is sticking to tradition, still maintaining monarchy, thats cool.
And Russia is stupid to have federal republics, monarchy is better as Russia was monarchy for 1000 years, i dont know why Putin doesnt let Romanov heir to come to Russia[heir is hiding in Niš, Serbia... again those filthy serbs interfere with world's history, damn bastards].
Yes, it is a shame that Austria Hungary had to overreact, Europe would be so much different today, millions of lives would have been saved, I imagine Putin doesn't allow him back because he fears the public wouldn't approve.
Truth is all the major powers in WW1 are to blame for the war.
- Serbia for not doing anything to bring the Black Hand assassins to justice
- Austria for giving preposterous ultimatum to Serbia ...an insult to one sovereign country to another
- Russia, Germany, Britain and France for having their own agendas and alliances in this conflict
No evil countries! No evil nations ...just an unfortunate set of alliances. Russia oblieged to defend serbia, Germany oblieged to defend austria, France allied with Russia, Britain oblieged to defend france and belgium ...GG.
Stefan Monyleaux is still a lolbertarian and therefore hard to take any of his views seriously since I can easily debate down that position.
I think though, in time he will see what must be done. And so will his followers. They will see who the real enemy is. The enemy who for now, shall not be named.
I mean you can listen to some modern pseudo-philosopher like Stephan's opinions on the "Truth" of WW1 or you can listen to a man (Benjamin H. Freedman ) who was at the Treaty of Versailles and in the cabinet of President Wilson. Your choice, goyim.
This lovely thing we call a "casus belli" (reason for war) is nothing more than what you make it to be. The smallest grudge can be a totally valid reason for war, while a horrendous atrocity can be downgraded to nothing more than a pathetic excuse.
This entire argument of who's to blame for the First and Second World Wars is like arguing what color Russell's teapot is. Invalid and meaningless.
They happened, it's over, and you can't change history after the fact. Okee, folks?
This lovely thing we call a "casus belli" (reason for war) is nothing more than what you make it to be. The smallest grudge can be a totally valid reason for war, while a horrendous atrocity can be downgraded to nothing more than a pathetic excuse.
This entire argument of who's to blame for the First and Second World Wars is like arguing what color Russell's teapot is. Invalid and meaningless.
They happened, it's over, and you can't change history after the fact. Okee, folks?
You can't change history, but you can change the books to be more right or wrong
