They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.
Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant
eehhhhhhhhh yes but they still need a few democrats to vote for their side to get things passed :/
They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.
Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant
eehhhhhhhhh yes but they still need a few democrats to vote for their side to get things passed :/
5 dems voted yes if I recall
And five republicans voted no, even if all 51 republicans votes yes that's only 56/60 required. What is your point? What are you trying to accomplish. Was your dad a abusive republican or something? Are you mexican? I don't understand you.
They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.
Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant
eehhhhhhhhh yes but they still need a few democrats to vote for their side to get things passed :/
5 dems voted yes if I recall
And five republicans voted no, even if all 51 republicans votes yes that's only 56/60 required. What is your point? What are you trying to accomplish. Was your dad a abusive republican or something? Are you mexican? I don't understand you.
Whatever happened to compromise. Henry Clay would be severely disappointed.
They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.
Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant
eehhhhhhhhh yes but they still need a few democrats to vote for their side to get things passed :/
5 dems voted yes if I recall
And five republicans voted no, even if all 51 republicans votes yes that's only 56/60 required. What is your point? What are you trying to accomplish. Was your dad a abusive republican or something? Are you mexican? I don't understand you.
Whatever happened to compromise. Henry Clay would be severely disappointed.
Tell me what the compromise is here, do we only give half the Dreamers citizenship?
They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.
Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant
eehhhhhhhhh yes but they still need a few democrats to vote for their side to get things passed :/
5 dems voted yes if I recall
And five republicans voted no, even if all 51 republicans votes yes that's only 56/60 required. What is your point? What are you trying to accomplish. Was your dad a abusive republican or something? Are you mexican? I don't understand you.
Whatever happened to compromise. Henry Clay would be severely disappointed.
Tell me what the compromise is here, do we only give half the Dreamers citizenship?
How about you dont do your shitty tax cuts for the rich and stop with your trickle down economics bullshit.
They needed to pass a budget in order to continue to operate, democrats won't votes yes unless the Republicans pass the Dreamers Act, republicans refuse,democrats shut down the government for foreigners. Now all none essential government employees where sent home. Aswell the military stays put untill the crises is averted.
Gtfo republicans are all to blame. They hold the majority so whatever the democrats want should be irrelevant
eehhhhhhhhh yes but they still need a few democrats to vote for their side to get things passed :/
5 dems voted yes if I recall
And five republicans voted no, even if all 51 republicans votes yes that's only 56/60 required. What is your point? What are you trying to accomplish. Was your dad a abusive republican or something? Are you mexican? I don't understand you.
Whatever happened to compromise. Henry Clay would be severely disappointed.
Tell me what the compromise is here, do we only give half the Dreamers citizenship?
How about you dont do your shitty tax cuts for the rich and stop with your trickle down economics bullshit.
That has nothing to do with why they blocked this bill. Nore is that even a remotely credible statement. 97% of americans taxes where decreased or stayed the same. A average American family of four with a median income of forty four thousand dollars will see a tax decrease of two thousand dollars. What good does shutting down the government do for a tax reform that already passed?
Tbh the world would have been a better place if napoleon conquered portugal.
Stalin was Georgian, but okay.
Also about Napoleon, sorry that Fontainebleau never happened, but that's also incorrect because Napoleon did conquer Portugal, he just didn't arrest the Royal Family, as when the Imperial Army was reaching Lisbon, the Royal Fleet was leaving the Tagus.
If your so liberal and progressive how can you look down on our society for being diferent then yours? Our society was founded by white eurooeans, our Constitution was written for white people, our founding fathers where incapable of knowing how the world would change after there deaths. Portugal is very close to morocco Portugal was the first to colonize. Your government it's development and it's ideas stem from its actions, the same as ours. It's easy to make this black and white, but social issues are never so are they? If the United states belief system, it's economic system, it's morality are so inferior, why do so many eurooeans spend so much time worry about us?
I'm moderately Liberal and Progressive in some areas indeed. I look down on your society because it's superficial society constructed on a false sense of common culture, common in a way to most American nations who imported their culture from the former motherland or absorbed it from the natives, mixing it. Your society was founded by white europeans under the principles of Iluminism and the predominance of Reason as source for Human progress. Those principles endorsed by Illuminism that your Constitution adopted and your founding fathers implemented extended to all humans (Illuminism and Voltaire for example stated Slavery should be abolished, something your founders adhered to.)
Your Constitution though it's an interesting subject and a case of study. It's hiperigid, ancient and decontextualized from reality nowadays. Do you know that there's a Constitutional Revision of your American Constitution waiting to move forward and be approved by the Federalized States since the 1920's regarding child labor? Child Labor! Something that goes against human rights your country in a way stood for and declared themselves as their safe harbour. When I do look down on your Constitution it's with a reason, not only because I have an Oral Exam on Constitutional Law in 13 days xD and I studied the American Constitution (and read it fully) but because when comparing to other constitutions I can truly say your constitution is outdated and inefficient, especially when it comes to the Ammendment that refers to right to hold guns (ffs, any iurisprudentia from a reasonable Supreme Court would clearly declare that Ammendment as void or analogicaly apply it to Armies..
I also criticise your country because it's incapable as a whole of changing and progressing. Took you a civil war to upheld an undeniable civil right, took you conflicts and violence to upheld another civil right of equality among black and men (equality doesnt exist tho but I'll use the term anyways), you even banned alcohol for some time, out of pure puritanism xd
Keep in mind America is not all bad, there's some great things that are truly to be admired, especially entrepeneurship and the risk-willing society ( along with geographical, political and demographical factors ofc) turned the country into a #1 Economy with sheer power, though that stemmed to inefficiency and backwardness, sadly.
Europeans don't spend so much time concerning about you now comparing to before. Now that you have a egocentric president under the America First motto, US leadership in Euroamerican business is slowly fading, with countries like France and Germany starting to take the front row of things (e.g. recent Climate summit) << Climate Change the ignorance in acknowledging things is also something that is a symptom of your backwardness in moving on as a society.
k first off please live in the united states before you talk shit about it, America has done a lot for this world then people realize or want to realize, yes we've had our ups and downs, but America is the strongest country on Earth, literally theres been studies and if all the troops were called back to the usa and we used all of our defenses we could stop any invasion force before it arrived on our shores. we need guns to defend ourselves its the liberal dumbasses who are destroying the country apart wanting all these fucking immigrants to come in and support their socialist (socialism borders Communism) agenda so they can be more powerful then ever. If you were to live in the usa, most of the news agencies are liberal as fuck, and do you know what they report all day long? They report about Trump, NON STOP, they are attacking the President more than any others before him, and thats what liberals and progressives do, when they lose power, they go batshit insane and attack anyone that threatens their agenda. I NEVER EVER seen them attack obama, because A. He was a liberal, and B. if they did they would most likely be thought of as racist. Going back to these mexicans coming into our country in the truckloads, we have to work our asses off to pay for these illegal immigrants when most of them dont work for themselves, would you want to pay for someone who wont work?????? Thats why the Democrats dont want the mexicans to be kept from coming. They want more voters and supporters to get more power. When a Liberal is in office, all they do is thrust their agenda forward , but when a conservative is in office they manage the government. News agencies like CNN, NBC, etc. constantly attack trump because they are biased. So please Blame the Liberals for what they've done. its ruining america greatly.
1- I have distant family in the United States who'm I contacted with, so I'm reasonably in touch with the reality there.
2- Gun Problem: Society Backwardness, you don't need pleb militias to defend you, just have more policing and efficient government to ensure safety for the population. Owning Machine Guns as if you live in the Maginot Line is stupid as fuck for crying out loud, how come Americans don't realize that.
3- I'm not a Liberal and I'm also fiercely anti-communist for ideological and personal reasons of which I mentioned here before.
4- I know your media is liberal but frankly, that's a product of your society, their ignorance reveals your ignorance. The moment you elect a celebrity into office and your population goes horny over the possibility of having Oprah or Dwayne Johnson or Tom Hanks as President or Vice-President and you like it, people with no experience at all who ride the Horse of Media Popularity, you know your society has severe mental damage
5- Trump's an idiot, but I support you on that. He's also the best thing that has happened to you in 18 years. You need a President as shit as him to implode your society and force it to progress once he's gone. He's indeed biasedly humiliated and persecuted.
6- Me and you are not so far off in immigrant issues. I'm against illegal immigration because I stand for equality and justice. Legal Immigration isn't bad at all, but has to be regulated. However, your country was built on Immigration so welcoming a mexican in you might aswell just be welcomign a 3rd cousin of yours xD
7- Liberals and Republicans and a Rationalized Political System of Governance is what's killing your country. The only successful example of bipolar political system is Britain and France (until 2017 before Macron got elected) and even them were struggling. Your political system is guilty aswell because it prohibits any other chances of different people ascending to top positions.
A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak.
That makes Obama weak then aswell. Government shutdown depending on a Parliamentary institution like Congress means it's not on the President, it's on the Congress that fails to put National Interests first and prefers playing political games with people's salaries. There's no moral in politics, hence why sometimes democracy should be suspended..
btw USA is not a democracy its a republic
I lectured Hellykin about the difference between Political Regime and Political System, do I need to lecture you again? I'm pretty sure I'm more informed and lectured at that than you..
US is a democratic Federal Republic.. and don't even dispute that, you'll look like a total fool lmao
How about you dont do your shitty tax cuts for the rich and stop with your trickle down economics bullshit.
You support the dreamers act little white boy? How sad is your life really?
Dreamers have 0 impact on my life. Why would I vote for a party who is only enriching the rich. If you think some pathetic reasonings as "they took our jobs" and "abortion is murder" will convince me to vote for a party who wants to return america to the gilded age, you're absolutely dellusional.
How about you dont do your shitty tax cuts for the rich and stop with your trickle down economics bullshit.
You support the dreamers act little white boy? How sad is your life really?
Dreamers have 0 impact on my life. Why would I vote for a party who is only enriching the rich. If you think some pathetic reasonings as "they took our jobs" and "abortion is murder" will convince me to vote for a party who wants to return america to the gilded age, you're absolutely dellusional.
They are all democrats that's the only reason democrats care.
How about you dont do your shitty tax cuts for the rich and stop with your trickle down economics bullshit.
You support the dreamers act little white boy? How sad is your life really?
Dreamers have 0 impact on my life. Why would I vote for a party who is only enriching the rich. If you think some pathetic reasonings as "they took our jobs" and "abortion is murder" will convince me to vote for a party who wants to return america to the gilded age, you're absolutely dellusional.
You can't possibly reject the fact Republicans, no matter how cancerous they are with their ultraconservative proposals, pose a good counter-weight against the excesses of ultraliberalism or desproportional liberalism the Democrats wish to enforce
I am entitled to tell you whatever I say because doesn't matter the state of my country, we are far more superior to your population mass in most of the aspects, especially average intelligence. The main cause of why the United States continuously shoot themselves in their foot where they could just progress is because of ultramongrels missing some chromossomes who think their little petulent and crippled value-less society is something everyone aspires to. It's not.
I am not entirely anti-american and all those gay shit you guys like to rotulate people that pinpoint how braintumoured your mass population and society is.
An average american can't even point 5 european capitals or identify 20 countries in a fucking world map (and I'm being really generous with the figures, I doubt an average american can even point 10 countries lmao) comparing to an average european person who can actually do that and depending on the region, even more. I call that Excellent School System and Culturalized Society that enables the masses to actually know the outside world to considerable or acceptable extents. Something that lacks the American People who are stuck on a 300 year old faulty and idiotic Constitution that protects "muh rights to have a gun fella'!".
Second:
The Europoors stereotype doesn't stick anymore. Portugal had the largest economic growth in European Union, Jobs are growing, unemployment decreasing, poverty isn't as surprisingly shocking as yours, racial, cultural and religious discrimination isn't actually a strong thing here as it is in a country founded under the principles of Equality and Freedom (when infact their idiotic founding fathers owned slaves and one hell of a group of idiots lmao).
Economy is strong, and so is the Nation, unlike your artificial one, not to mention our Healthcare is far above in the rankings than yours (even the Cuban Healthcare is, smh lil' american) and Portugal actually won for 2/3 times (in a row I think) the World's Best Destination for Tourism award.
That says a lot about a small country with a gigantic history who actually tops a 300million sheer gigantic country who can't put order in their domestic issues. You're doomed to fail, sadly.
So, summarizing, I'm entitled as hell to tell you how my country runs, so that I can educate you, a human coming from a system where you're everything but educated, or culturalized.
Learn from Europe, the axis of the world, we taught you, we formed you, we created you and built you.
Enjoy this, you might be interested to watch this tbh:
You do realize that, that thing from USA will come to Europe as well right(ignorance & arrogance)? Europeans already started to behave like Americans with their iphones, facebooks and dresing style. Soon schools will become underfunded like american, just top univs will stay afloat to keep producing scientists to maintain the technology. The rest of pop are planned for factory work and service industry. So no point blaming the people or nation for that. The one percenters will win at the end anyway.
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If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots
If your so liberal and progressive how can you look down on our society for being diferent then yours? Our society was founded by white eurooeans, our Constitution was written for white people, our founding fathers where incapable of knowing how the world would change after there deaths. Portugal is very close to morocco Portugal was the first to colonize. Your government it's development and it's ideas stem from its actions, the same as ours. It's easy to make this black and white, but social issues are never so are they? If the United states belief system, it's economic system, it's morality are so inferior, why do so many eurooeans spend so much time worry about us?
I'm moderately Liberal and Progressive in some areas indeed. I look down on your society because it's superficial society constructed on a false sense of common culture, common in a way to most American nations who imported their culture from the former motherland or absorbed it from the natives, mixing it. Your society was founded by white europeans under the principles of Iluminism and the predominance of Reason as source for Human progress. Those principles endorsed by Illuminism that your Constitution adopted and your founding fathers implemented extended to all humans (Illuminism and Voltaire for example stated Slavery should be abolished, something your founders adhered to.)
Your Constitution though it's an interesting subject and a case of study. It's hiperigid, ancient and decontextualized from reality nowadays. Do you know that there's a Constitutional Revision of your American Constitution waiting to move forward and be approved by the Federalized States since the 1920's regarding child labor? Child Labor! Something that goes against human rights your country in a way stood for and declared themselves as their safe harbour. When I do look down on your Constitution it's with a reason, not only because I have an Oral Exam on Constitutional Law in 13 days xD and I studied the American Constitution (and read it fully) but because when comparing to other constitutions I can truly say your constitution is outdated and inefficient, especially when it comes to the Ammendment that refers to right to hold guns (ffs, any iurisprudentia from a reasonable Supreme Court would clearly declare that Ammendment as void or analogicaly apply it to Armies..
I also criticise your country because it's incapable as a whole of changing and progressing. Took you a civil war to upheld an undeniable civil right, took you conflicts and violence to upheld another civil right of equality among black and men (equality doesnt exist tho but I'll use the term anyways), you even banned alcohol for some time, out of pure puritanism xd
Keep in mind America is not all bad, there's some great things that are truly to be admired, especially entrepeneurship and the risk-willing society ( along with geographical, political and demographical factors ofc) turned the country into a #1 Economy with sheer power, though that stemmed to inefficiency and backwardness, sadly.
Europeans don't spend so much time concerning about you now comparing to before. Now that you have a egocentric president under the America First motto, US leadership in Euroamerican business is slowly fading, with countries like France and Germany starting to take the front row of things (e.g. recent Climate summit) << Climate Change the ignorance in acknowledging things is also something that is a symptom of your backwardness in moving on as a society.
I don't ever remember being quoted in this, but I'll try and keep this simple. Your a human being from a very diferent and distinct culture, you grew up very diferently then you would have if you where an american, your family, peers, and colleagues, you interact with every day share their thoughts and opinions among one another. Your thoughts and opinions are yours, and yours alone. With that being said I would like to try and explain why several of your opinions would have terrible side effects on my society do to the nature of how Americans interact.
When Rollo of the Vikings settled in northern france, a new culture was being created, it was the seeds of the Norman culture. Then when William of Normandy invaded the british islands, it created the english culture. My point being this, new cultures are created when old cultures find themselves in a situation where they are no longer in a familiar enviornment and are forced to adapt, American truly is a real culture as it is a melting pot of former cultures who for various circumstances found themselves in a new world.
We can not change our Constitution under any circumstances do to our country being a complete failure to adhere to its core principles to protect its citizens. Our government is corrupt, and any attempt to alter the constitution would end in the people suffering as corporations lobby to seize more control through lobbying efforts. While I don't agree with your stance on fire arms that was merly an example and is not important. What is important is the freedom of speech, which is protected by the freedom to bare arms. How could you suggest the most powerful military force in the world, being controlled by the most corrupt politicians in the world, would adhere to its people, and what they want, if there was not 40 million people with the ability to create an armed revolution. I don't trust my government to keep the people's best wishes at heart therefor the need to bare arms is required for the day they go to far.
Have you ever considered that our backwards and egocentric tendencies, might be exactly what gave us the ability to inovate, create,and build an empire that ushered forth the modern era? We where in direct compition with the Soviet Union for fifty years, through that rivalry our modern society was born, and our willingness to be bold and diferent protected the entire world from a otherwise oppressive regime. You may not like our brand of freedom, but it helped protect yours from totalterianism that would have taken root in europe other wise.
I won't address your last point, our economy is booming, and untill the world proves otherwise, America First is working.
I am entitled to tell you whatever I say because doesn't matter the state of my country, we are far more superior to your population mass in most of the aspects, especially average intelligence. The main cause of why the United States continuously shoot themselves in their foot where they could just progress is because of ultramongrels missing some chromossomes who think their little petulent and crippled value-less society is something everyone aspires to. It's not.
I am not entirely anti-american and all those gay shit you guys like to rotulate people that pinpoint how braintumoured your mass population and society is.
An average american can't even point 5 european capitals or identify 20 countries in a fucking world map (and I'm being really generous with the figures, I doubt an average american can even point 10 countries lmao) comparing to an average european person who can actually do that and depending on the region, even more. I call that Excellent School System and Culturalized Society that enables the masses to actually know the outside world to considerable or acceptable extents. Something that lacks the American People who are stuck on a 300 year old faulty and idiotic Constitution that protects "muh rights to have a gun fella'!".
Second:
The Europoors stereotype doesn't stick anymore. Portugal had the largest economic growth in European Union, Jobs are growing, unemployment decreasing, poverty isn't as surprisingly shocking as yours, racial, cultural and religious discrimination isn't actually a strong thing here as it is in a country founded under the principles of Equality and Freedom (when infact their idiotic founding fathers owned slaves and one hell of a group of idiots lmao).
Economy is strong, and so is the Nation, unlike your artificial one, not to mention our Healthcare is far above in the rankings than yours (even the Cuban Healthcare is, smh lil' american) and Portugal actually won for 2/3 times (in a row I think) the World's Best Destination for Tourism award.
That says a lot about a small country with a gigantic history who actually tops a 300million sheer gigantic country who can't put order in their domestic issues. You're doomed to fail, sadly.
So, summarizing, I'm entitled as hell to tell you how my country runs, so that I can educate you, a human coming from a system where you're everything but educated, or culturalized.
Learn from Europe, the axis of the world, we taught you, we formed you, we created you and built you.
Enjoy this, you might be interested to watch this tbh:
You do realize that, that thing from USA will come to Europe as well right(ignorance & arrogance)? Europeans already started to behave like Americans with their iphones, facebooks and dresing style. Soon schools will become underfunded like american, just top univs will stay afloat to keep producing scientists to maintain the technology. The rest of pop are planned for factory work and service industry. So no point blaming the people or nation for that. The one percenters will win at the end anyway.
Your are correct, the dumbing down of americans was on purpose in an attempt to take away it's people's rights, because they do not even know what there rights are. You are also correct that they will attempt to do the exact same thing in europe.
You do realize that, that thing from USA will come to Europe as well right(ignorance & arrogance)? Europeans already started to behave like Americans with their iphones, facebooks and dresing style. Soon schools will become underfunded like american, just top univs will stay afloat to keep producing scientists to maintain the technology. The rest of pop are planned for factory work and service industry. So no point blaming the people or nation for that. The one percenters will win at the end anyway.
Your are correct, the dumbing down of americans was on purpose in an attempt to take away it's people's rights, because they do not even know what there rights are. You are also correct that they will attempt to do the exact same thing in europe.
The uniformization you both spoke of is called globalization or in a more stricto sensu way, an Americanization of the First World..though that's debatable in Europe geographically and culturally wise. There's parts of europe way more permissive of those foreign cultural invasions than others.. I do disagree with what he said about the School system and the society, I think that's not the path europe will take, though there's people needed for agriculture and industry and Europe's neglecting them
You do realize that, that thing from USA will come to Europe as well right(ignorance & arrogance)? Europeans already started to behave like Americans with their iphones, facebooks and dresing style. Soon schools will become underfunded like american, just top univs will stay afloat to keep producing scientists to maintain the technology. The rest of pop are planned for factory work and service industry. So no point blaming the people or nation for that. The one percenters will win at the end anyway.
Your are correct, the dumbing down of americans was on purpose in an attempt to take away it's people's rights, because they do not even know what there rights are. You are also correct that they will attempt to do the exact same thing in europe.
The uniformization you both spoke of is called globalization or in a more stricto sensu way, an Americanization of the First World..though that's debatable in Europe geographically and culturally wise. There's parts of europe way more permissive of those foreign cultural invasions than others.. I do disagree with what he said about the School system and the society, I think that's not the path europe will take, though there's people needed for agriculture and industry and Europe's neglecting them
Sure. When Japan is globalizing or 'americanizing', they go up, science, education, infrastrucutre, entertainment, everything, and when Europe does the same thing, it's going down.
Atleast we agree globalization is big minus.
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If a game is around long enough, people will find the most efficient way to play it and start playing it like robots
Like republicans didn't shut the government down before. Stupid elephants
They didn't every time it's been democrats do some research.
2013 ted cruz ring a bell?? The 80s when Reagan was president
I am not aware of anything from the 80s but since the first time it happened in 2013, it was the democrats who have used the government budget as a bargaining chip to pass social reforms. I'm not going to argue this again it's already been discussed in this thread please go read it.
Like republicans didn't shut the government down before. Stupid elephants
They didn't every time it's been democrats do some research.
2013 ted cruz ring a bell?? The 80s when Reagan was president
I am not aware of anything from the 80s but since the first time it happened in 2013, it was the democrats who have used the government budget as a bargaining chip to pass social reforms. I'm not going to argue this again it's sl ready been discussed in this thread please go read it.
Your right it not up for debate majority of Americans all ready agree it was the republicans fault in 2013 lookup any poll
Like republicans didn't shut the government down before. Stupid elephants
They didn't every time it's been democrats do some research.
2013 ted cruz ring a bell?? The 80s when Reagan was president
I am not aware of anything from the 80s but since the first time it happened in 2013, it was the democrats who have used the government budget as a bargaining chip to pass social reforms. I'm not going to argue this again it's sl ready been discussed in this thread please go read it.
Your right it not up for debate majority of Americans all ready agree it was the republicans fault in 2013 lookup any poll
Same polls that said donald trump had an 11% chance of winning? You can take your fake mojority somewhere else. Obama care is treason and he should be locked up for it.
