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Mom: why don't you play with neighbor's kid?
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The Banks building works similar to the general:cost upgrade. It reduces the upkeep of all units in the same city as the bank by 1. That's basically it, if you have for example, 50 units in the same city as a bank, it will reduce the upkeep of those units by 1 each, so you save 50 cash that turn.

FAQ

Does the Bank building make units cheaper to buy?
No. The units all cost the same to buy with and without the bank building.

Does the Bank building have an upkeep?
Yes. If you are None, the bank costs you 69 a turn in upkeep.

Does the Bank building work on units built from other cities?
Yes. The upkeep reduction is on ANY unit in the city with the bank.

Does the upkeep reduction stack with the general's upkeep reduction?
Yes

Does the upkeep of buildings get reduced?
Yes, even the upkeep of the bank itself gets reduced by 1. Note the bank's upkeep is 69 (70 - 1) if you are none strategy.

What is the break even point where the bank is worth buying?
If None is your strategy. You need at least 70 units for the upkeep reduction of the bank to outweigh the upkeep of the bank itself. If you have 70 units, in a city with a bank, it takes 600 turns to pay off the investment of the bank.
If you have 79 units, it takes 60 turns. If you have 169 units, it takes 6 turns to get a return on investment.

When you are playing games, if you have large stacks with hundreds of units and you tend to keep them in one particular city (like your capital) often, then a Bank might be worth buying. A useless tidbit about banks and general cost reduction is that they reduce upkeep by reducing the "cost" stats of all units in the same stack as them. Generals with the upgrade reduces the cost stats by 50 and the Bank by 10.
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24.01.2021 在 Why
Why ppl dont just mute ppl, deleting ur acc after all those hrs invested .....
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24.01.2021 在 Bugs to Avoid?
作者: Xenominoz, 24.01.2021 at 21:18

Oh its witch doctor's alt, so i guess mods can ie abuse now
i miss kaska

it's mobster (subutay's) acc now
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24.01.2021 在 Bugs to Avoid?
Oh its witch doctor's alt, so i guess mods can ie abuse now
i miss kaska
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24.01.2021 在 Real competition
作者: Dave, 24.01.2021 at 15:00

作者: ITSGG1122, 24.01.2021 at 14:06

$500 a month is too little.
But what i meant to say, you do not need to pay that $150k a year.
Many companies in silicon valley just attract foreign cheap tech workers anyway.
Just look at this statistics.
https://prnt.sc/xka6dr
57% of techforce in silicon valley born outside the usa.
And this stat went to nearly 75% in 2018...


If you want to make this a serious discussion about hiring programmers then I would say, if you want to hire a foreign dev, the best value for your money is Ukraine. You can find very talented developers for around $50K USD per year.

I've hired and/or managed a lot of foreign devs in my career, and personally I have had the best success with Ukraine. Following that, Eastern Europe in general is pretty good (Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia, Romania, etc.). On the other hand Indian devs (as a whole) are the absolute worst... in my entire career I only ever found 1 Indian dev who was decent, and he charged $25 USD/hour! Not being racist, that's just being honest about what I've found through my own experience. (And yes, there are lots of other places to find good devs around the world... I'm only talking places where you can find good talent for cheap.)

So yes if I wanted to I could get a good programmer for less than $150K. Probably I could find somebody decent for as little as $50K. Sure there are cheaper devs but any less than $50K and you're very unlikely to get quality code from them.

Anyway my original point still stands... I was simply trying to say that we don't have the money to hire another programmer. $150K or $50K, it doesn't make any difference. I'm all that atWar's got, for the foreseeable future.


I agree as well, anything less than $50k isnt good.
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作者: Sid My Gay Lover, 24.01.2021 at 02:52

He encouraged his voters to vote in person. He didn't discourage them from voting. That's dishonest to say he did.

He also encouraged people to raid the capitol lol.
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24.01.2021 在 Why
Another noob slayed gg
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24.01.2021 在 Bugs to Avoid?
Now -50 lol
http://prntscr.com/xkp750
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He lost, his "Special people" are crying? Wow.
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24.01.2021 在 Roast thread
Just look that some people use my tactics it's really wrong
Yae nobody can use anyone's strategy, this is a browser strategy game site called atwar please know your limits, friends
If you don't know your limits,
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Banned for abandoning 13% of the games
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24.01.2021 在 Why
My friend jurospu will be missed

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24.01.2021 在 Bugs to Avoid?
One bug you should avoid is having -31 posts https://prnt.sc/xknhxq
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24.01.2021 在 Bugs to Avoid?
I guess there are still some bugs that can destroy a good work. We should put them under one topic and pin it to the top (I don't know if there's a topic like that, I didn't find any.) so a new map maker will be safe after looking into it.

I will start my research through topics. Any help will be appreciated
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24.01.2021 在 Real competition
作者: Sean Spicer, 24.01.2021 at 16:35

The only solution is 1. continue with the status quo until atwar eventually expands with a mobile app that might enable the hiring of another developer or 2. get a co-owner to work on the game as well and sign a contract to share the game, this will provide 2x more ideas, 2x faster work or 3. there could be an investment in a programmer even before the platform expands if it is determined that their contributions will somehow provide return.

I believe in the last solution, so you should take out a $750,000 dollar loan to hire some programmers then boom this will be a multi-million dollar enterprise

Not sure how you can take on liability of 15 x the annual revenue. This would take around 25 years to pay back without even being able to afford the developer.
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24.01.2021 在 Real competition
作者: Dave, 24.01.2021 at 15:03

作者: Sun Tsu, 24.01.2021 at 14:22

$500 per month is what my company pays for php coders, Paying upto $800 per month for IOT/.NET developers. And the work is fine


Respectfully I would want to see that code, because I'm deeply sceptical you can get good quality code for so cheap.

In terms of the quality of the code, as I am not a programmer there is no way for me to check the code, Therefore your opinion would be most welcome! I can PM some examples. As long as the software does what we need it to do, then we are happy, if there is bugs or errors, we make revision logs and usually the issues are resolved quickly.
To be honest, starting out in tech, I had lots of issues sourcing developers from south Asia , I have had to pay twice as developers abandoned, developers over promising and under delivering, plus many more tales of woe, however I have learnt its the same as any recruitment market, it's often hard to get right the first time. Now I have a reliable team, apart from having to nag them for updates they are trustworthy and reliable and the software does what it is supposed to do. $25 per hour seems very excessive for that market. I think overall there is good and bad in any given market and this is no different. Although I agree, Eastern Europeans are the perfect balance in terms of tech precedents, cultural identity and cost efficiency, however if you have the patience to push back on the quality assurance when outsourcing to India I personally believe it should not be fully ruled out, without full investigation as any other I assume would prove to be unviable.
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24.01.2021 在 Why
Rip juro, 2016-2021 he was bullied until he deleted. https://atwar-game.com/users/profile.php?user_id=1291922 Juro's last words were "juro: ok i delete my account. NO juro in atwar. ww1 was good. Good luck. I leave. +1 rep you all"
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作者: Tungston, 23.01.2021 at 16:18

I thought noobs won the first round. Or do we have more games to play?

Indeed, i was refering to the rest of the teams.. i got nothing just Succesors and Sailors played 2 games and was a draw... so far.
Look even to this i got just 1 answer
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Me2

how can i delete this?
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24.01.2021 在 Real competition
The only solution is 1. continue with the status quo until atwar eventually expands with a mobile app that might enable the hiring of another developer or 2. get a co-owner to work on the game as well and sign a contract to share the game, this will provide 2x more ideas, 2x faster work or 3. there could be an investment in a programmer even before the platform expands if it is determined that their contributions will somehow provide return.

I believe in the last solution, so you should take out a $750,000 dollar loan to hire some programmers then boom this will be a multi-million dollar enterprise
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Not cool
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作者: Witch-Doctor, 24.01.2021 at 14:02

作者: Andartes, 24.01.2021 at 12:10

In the USA you can vote how you like, by going to the polling station, via email, real mail, having the ballot sent to you, voting on different days, it's crazy.

Now let's talk about voters demographics: middle aged, older, conservative, white, with jobs vote republicans, while young, unemployed, from immigrant background, non-white vote democrats. Usually.

Combine these two and you have a havoc; i didn't even pay much attention but since TV was on i saw enough; people who count votes throwing half of the votes in the trash, people who just drive-in and throw their letter(with vote in it) through the window, people voting without IDs (to prove their residence, citizenship, basic details)... Trump had no chance.

If election rules where normal, like showing up with the ID and casting vote on the spot, Trump would win with 70-30% ratio.

People with disabilities vote from their home on the election day when workers from the polling stations send a crew FROM their ranks on that particular day with the proper ballot come to their door. Every community knows who those people are so they don't even have to notify the state, they will simply wait and somewhere between 9 in the morning to 9 evening for doorbell to ring. I say this because this is the only counter-argument to why would you vote in person i explained above.



But i must add that choosing congressmen is impressive, where politicians can only compete in their county, regardless of party affiliation for the spot in the capital. The only other country i can think of to practice this is Belarus. In other countries, parliaments are filled with politicians born in the capital, some of them who never traveled and completely oblivious to the state of their provinces, countryside and other cities.


1. You can't vote by email
2. Voting by mail has been done since the Civil War. I don't see a reason why we need to change it. There are lots of people in the military who are away from home and must vote by mail.
3. They live streamed ballot counting all over the internet. Feel free to show me a video of someone throwing away votes in the trash. Not only that, there were observers at every ballot counting location. None of them saw anything suspicious.
4. There's nobody who "drives in and throw their letters." Those are people who filled out their ballots at home and are dropping it off at an official ballot station. There is a deadline for when you can submit their ballot and past the deadline they won't take it.

Let me tell you how voting works in my state Colorado. Here, we vote primarily by mail. People would register to vote before the elections. When you register to vote, you have to prove your residency and citizenship. They then go and verify that all your information when you register to vote is correct. Every single person in Colorado who registered to vote is on a PUBLIC voter registry database. You can feel free to go through it yourself and find anyone who you think is not a US citizen or doesn't live in Colorado and report them. You can find it by googling it.

After your voter registration is done and there's no problems, you wait until the election. A week or two before the election, they mail you your official ballot to your residency. The ballot has many many many many many security features that makes it nearly impossible to fake. It's probably easier to counterfeit money. You cast your vote on your ballot, and you sign it. You also have to get another person who watched you fill out your ballot to sign the ballot as a witness as well.. Now you have two choices, you can either mail it back to the state, or you can drive with the ballot and drop it off at an official ballot dropoff location (often public places like churches, libraries, or schools).

If you can't vote by mail for whatever reason. You show up in person during election day to polling stations. Once again, public places like churches, libraries, or schools are often used as polling stations. After you show up.
They make sure you are registered to vote and there's nothing wrong with your registration. You show them your ID (often driver license) and they check on their computers that you registered to vote and that there's no other problems. After they completely clear you, you get in line. I voted in person for the 2018 primary so I know how this work. I waited in line and I entered a room with like 6 voting machines (I voted at a small church). Here, they check your ID again and then set up the voting machine for you. When I got to the machine, they showed me that the machine has my name and information set up before I vote on anything so I know this is my vote.

During the actual voting, each page would ask you a single question. (Who do you vote for governor?) Then you select the candidate or select yes/no if it's a question about some law or amendment they're trying to pass. The entire process took me about 40 minutes.


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24.01.2021 在 Real competition
作者: Sun Tsu, 24.01.2021 at 14:22

$500 per month is what my company pays for php coders, Paying upto $800 per month for IOT/.NET developers. And the work is fine


Respectfully I would want to see that code, because I'm deeply skeptical you can get good quality code for so cheap.
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24.01.2021 在 Real competition
作者: ITSGG1122, 24.01.2021 at 14:06

$500 a month is too little.
But what i meant to say, you do not need to pay that $150k a year.
Many companies in silicon valley just attract foreign cheap tech workers anyway.
Just look at this statistics.
https://prnt.sc/xka6dr
57% of techforce in silicon valley born outside the usa.
And this stat went to nearly 75% in 2018...


If you want to make this a serious discussion about hiring programmers then I would say, if you want to hire a foreign dev, the best value for your money is Ukraine. You can find very talented developers for around $50K USD per year.

I've hired and/or managed a lot of foreign devs in my career, and personally I have had the best success with Ukraine. Following that, Eastern Europe in general is pretty good (Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia, Romania, etc.). On the other hand Indian devs (as a whole) are the absolute worst... in my entire career I only ever found 1 Indian dev who was decent, and he charged $25 USD/hour! Not being racist, that's just being honest about what I've found through my own experience. (And yes, there are lots of other places to find good devs around the world... I'm only talking places where you can find good talent for cheap.)

So yes if I wanted to I could get a good programmer for less than $150K. Probably I could find somebody decent for as little as $50K. Sure there are cheaper devs but any less than $50K and you're very unlikely to get quality code from them.

Anyway my original point still stands... I was simply trying to say that we don't have the money to hire another programmer. $150K or $50K, it doesn't make any difference. I'm all that atWar's got, for the foreseeable future.
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24.01.2021 在 Real competition
作者: Witch-Doctor, 24.01.2021 at 14:25

作者: Sun Tsu, 24.01.2021 at 14:22

作者: ITSGG1122, 24.01.2021 at 14:06

作者: Sun Tsu, 23.01.2021 at 16:29

作者: ITSGG1122, 22.01.2021 at 09:05

Hire a programmer from second world countries and not usa where u have to pay 150k a year, wheareas 30k will do for the same quality.

An indian html/php programmer is $500 per month


$500 a month is too little.
But what i meant to say, you do not need to pay that $150k a year.
Many companies in silicon valley just attract foreign cheap tech workers anyway.
Just look at this statistics.
https://prnt.sc/xka6dr
57% of techforce in silicon valley born outside the usa.
And this stat went to nearly 75% in 2018...

$500 per month is what my company pays for php coders, Paying upto $800 per month for IOT/.NET developers. And the work is fine


I wouldn't trust anyone who gets paid less than minimum wage at Walmart to code anything for me. The code is probably terrible, inefficient, un-commented, and buggy.

India does not have a minimum wage, however the average wage is $150. It seems you didnt read the thread. Certified Apple engineers in India get paid less than a bus driver here in the UK.
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